tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4872950921010281700.post3309839667715489498..comments2023-05-18T03:58:24.724-04:00Comments on Mac na h'Eireann: Our Unpatriotic members of society.Blighterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15023963636323286741noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4872950921010281700.post-90845638145217228272008-09-22T13:46:00.000-04:002008-09-22T13:46:00.000-04:00Right, So many points to address, some of which I ...Right, So many points to address, some of which I agree upon and of course others which I do not. For clarity I will need to break down your latest missive in sections.<BR/><BR/>First: Your contention that Uncle Joe (which was another famous person's nick name)was not calling people's patriotism into question is not supported by his statement.<BR/><BR/>It is his statement that I found so very irritating and wrong that I wrote about it in the first place. If, as I tend to agree, that the meaning was to say:<BR/> <I>" because of their good fortune and the benefits that America has enabled them to accrue, it's time for them to step up and pay their fair share."</I><BR/><BR/>Then I believe I have shown quite clearly that these people are already paying their fair share by creating jobs and opportunities for the Nation as a whole. It is the aggravating fact that those persons who contribute by way of fostering the economy, are being portrayed as unpatriotic and as "shirkers" (another term from another dark time).<BR/><BR/>Second:<BR/><BR/><I>I do not agree with JB at least I don't agree that raising taxes and creating a class war is the way to solve Americas' economic woes. No sir, I think we should be first looking to get our spending addiction under control.</I><BR/><BR/>No argument from me on this, I couldn't agree more. I also agree with most of your follow up in that no one party is responsible for the over spending of government at all levels. As that is a subject of great breadth I defer to the one line answer, for time allows me not to go into great detail. Agreed.<BR/><BR/>Third:<BR/><BR/><I>This is supposed to be a country of the People and for the People and not about political parties. Blighter, before you start looking at all the "bad" ideas coming from the Democrats, you should look to clean your own house. As it says in the Bible, (and I'm paraphrasing)"take care of the beam in your own eye before you point out the speck in your neighbor's".</I><BR/><BR/>I daresay you missed the point of my original article if you somehow percieved this as an attack on the Democrat party. I do not hide the fact that conservative values drive my political thought, but I do not believe anywhere in my ariticle did I mention or put forth the view that it was the Party that was responsible for Uncle Joe's statement. A statement I find quite wrong. If I was writing at the time that the Administration placed the unpatriotic label on those persons who did not support the invasion of Iraq, a similar article would have been produced. For, I know many persons who love our nation dearly but did not support this action. <BR/><BR/>This is not about Parties, my friend, this is about our nation and the people, all of the people undivided by class, economics or party.<BR/><BR/>The divisivness and falseness of Joe Biden's plan is a detriment to this country and all those people.<BR/><BR/>I am a firm believer in Capitalism and a free market society. I have seen first hand socialism, and what it does to its people, thus my rabid defense of our systems of business and government. We may have corruption, greed, and avarice, but we have not the level that permeates the socialist countries of the world. Uncle Joe is leaning too close to the basis of socialist thought and for that he deserves my scorn.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, my pointing out of "Bad ideas" is something I do rather well, and take great pleasure in.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for replying in a civil way and I look forward to discussing my ravings with you again real soon.<BR/><BR/>Slainte'<BR/>BlighterBlighterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15023963636323286741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4872950921010281700.post-45497394397965407422008-09-22T10:38:00.000-04:002008-09-22T10:38:00.000-04:00Not caustic at all, my friend and I meant not to c...Not caustic at all, my friend and I meant not to cast insults so I apologize. I also apologize for the misspelling and not using the proper name, "Blighter", and I thank you for making my point for me. You see I believe that "uncle Joe Biden" was not looking to penalize people, or call into question their patriotism. I believe that uncle Joe was saying that because of their good fortune and the benefits that America has enabled them to accrue, it's time for them to step up and pay their fair share. Now let's get one thing perfectly clear I'm not a Democrat. I do not agree with JB at least I don't agree that raising taxes and creating a class war is the way to solve Americas' economic woes. No sir, I think we should be first looking to get our spending addiction under control. A spending addiction that is just as deeply rooted in the Republicans as it is in the Democrats. We need to get our National priorities in order and communicate those priorities to the people. We need to be looking to unify this country, instead of arguing about which party is right. This is supposed to be a country of the People and for the People and not about political parties. Blighter, before you start looking at all the "bad" ideas coming from the Democrats, you should look to clean your own house. As it says in the Bible, (and I'm paraphrasing)"take care of the beam in your own eye before you point out the speck in your neighbor's". Have a joyful day.Yahootie Jabootiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00325373511171235922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4872950921010281700.post-47496217874077169262008-09-22T10:02:00.000-04:002008-09-22T10:02:00.000-04:00Drivel? Off the mark? Kool Aid?My, my, my, aren't ...Drivel? Off the mark? Kool Aid?<BR/><BR/>My, my, my, aren't we a bit caustic this morning.<BR/><BR/>First, your weak insults aside, It was not I who confused patriotism with investing it was Uncle Joe Biden. <BR/><BR/>Second, greed does play a factor in any business decision, self interests have been the heart and soul of not only the economy but also our politics. This goes without saying.<BR/><BR/>What I am saying is that the investments of these people in our economy, go much further than Uncle Joe wants to give credit for, and his Capital gains tax plan and idea of taxing them more on their income could have the exact effect you so capably put forth; i.e. the investors will look to foreign markets. Pure and simple. For if as an investor I am able to obtain an 8% return on a deal and the Government takes 4% that leaves me with a 4% gain. If I am able to do the same with your beloved China and retain 6% of course It would only make sense to do so right?<BR/><BR/>Perhaps, if that was the only factor, but one must also look at the security and laws of the foreign nation in which you are investing. As an investor do I trust the Chinese to release my gains or do I fear that the Communist Government may at any point decide to take all of my money for their own, or do I place my monies in the US market where it is more secure and benefits my neighbors? This is no small matter. <BR/><BR/>No, what I am going to do is continue to invest in my markets and my Nation and in so doing continue to foster and strengthen this Country.<BR/><BR/>Let us also look at the recent outcry over the Summer Olympics. Did not many a person say they would not attend or promote that event because it was being held in China? Hmmmm. Do you not think that many people, of which I know a few, do the same with their money? Also, lets look at the campaign contributions shall we while we are on the subject. What do the millions of various donors hope to achieve by giving money to candidates? For most no real monetary gain can be expected for their $4,300 investment so why do it? <BR/><BR/>Come on you know the answer, it is right there on the tip of your tongue......<BR/><BR/>I realize that it is fashionable to vilify anyone who has obtained a modicum of wealth and to discredit any good intentions and or feelings of Patriotism they may have simply based upon their income. However as I have pointed out in the original article, this is far from the truth for the most part and it is faulty in the extreme.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, allow me this one dig for I cannot help myself when dealing with someone of such volatile temperament.<BR/><BR/>The name Mac na h'Eireann(son of Ireland) is spelled with the letter h before the e not l. That name is but the title of the Blog, for if you would look closely you will see each and every one of my posts is signed as " Blighter". <BR/><BR/>Take a breath, and then try again. <BR/>I know you can do better, for I have read and enjoyed your comments on some of my other posts.<BR/><BR/>Slainte'<BR/>BlighterBlighterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15023963636323286741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4872950921010281700.post-52486533499337269802008-09-22T07:59:00.000-04:002008-09-22T07:59:00.000-04:00Holy crap, are you ever off the mark! Are you seri...Holy crap, are you ever off the mark! Are you serious? Do you really expect us to believe that these people are "investing" because they're patriotic? What drivel! They are investing because they want to make money and if the opportunity to make money presented itself in Communist China or the Russian oil fields they would be investing there. You seem to have confused patriotism with greed. I've heard of people "drinking the cool-aid" but you Mac na l'Eireann seem to be bathing in it.Yahootie Jabootiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00325373511171235922noreply@blogger.com